without disagreeing with donald trump. >> mr. tillerson, do you agree with president-elect trump when he said, quote, it wouldn't be a bad thing for us if japan, south korea, or saudi arabia acquired nuclear weapons? >> senator, i don't think anyone advocates for more nuclear weapons on the planet. >> donald trump said it would not be a bad thing. do you agree with that or disagree with that? >> i do not agree. >> elise, he did not dodge that one. and markey put it in a way that there wasn't much dodge room. do you agree with that or not agree with it? >> and he had a few other points that he contrasted with donald trump. specifically, he said that he supported the transpacific partnership. and he also -- this just with that, with not supporting more nukes in the world, you've got some key contrasts. we've seen that with several cabinet nominees in their initial hearings. i think it's when you have donald trump who is so all over the place, you're inevitably going have this kind of discord come to the surface. >> michael, i can't